budget pickup: nissan ultra eagle or mazda b2500

[lnce420]

performance, consumption, maintainance cost, parts availability, reliability

thanks!

[alwayz_yummy]

kung kaya mo mag- fuego mas maganda.. ako i vote for the more reliable nissan...

[goodboy]

Performance: B2500, 16-valve, DOHC, turbo intercooler
Consumption: probably the eagle
Parts cost and availability: both have affordable after market parts
Reliability: nissan is probably better known for their pick-ups

Note: B2500 has 4x2 and 4x4 while i think the eagle only has 4x2

[kyoots]

if they were both well-kept, i mean, parehong mahusay magalaga ang dating may-ari, best to choose the mazda.

in terms of parts availability, the nissan is the winner kasi madami parts nyan whether original or replacement.

performance-wise, the nissan is also a better choice kasi maganda rin ang 2.5 liter (or 3.0 liter) nissan diesel engine na nasa Eagle series.

sa body naman, the mazda body looks more solid kasi lesser ang kanto nya and more curves. isa pa, kung kakatokin mo ang lata ng mazda compared to nissan, mas makapal ang tunog ng lata ng mazda.

[lnce420]

thanks to those who responded.

any more input?

[power eagle]

1997 nissan ultra eagle 4x2 owner here top of the line range (std and DLX 2 other variants).
power windows, steering, side mirors (99 model).
yan din pinagpilian namin before nung bibili kami ng pickup, pero mas pinili namin ang nissan. malakas kasi ang makina at hatak kahit 8v watercooled lang siya lalo pagpatay ang aircon. top speed niya pagkaalam ko ay 160km/h noon kasi ang bida ng nissan sila ang may pinakamabilis ng pickup compared sa l200,hilux at ls isuzu. sa aircon department walang problema sobrang lamig basta orginal calsonic siya just like sa amin dipa napapalitan since binili. check lang ang kalawang sa ilalim. masarap i drive magaan ang steering lalo pag city driving. fuel consumption normal driving 60-80lm/h city driving 8-10km/l pag hiway naman 13-16km/l pag hataw mode 100-120km/h nasa 7-8 km/l. current mileage 244,xxx dipa na overhaul yan kaya pa mag 155 km/h pero me black smoke na siya mausok na hehe. P50,000 ang charge pag nagpa overhaul ng nissan engine mahal daw kasi nissan parts. no overheating. may 2 fuel filter siya.

2.5 BD2500 8v water cooled
87 hp siya
176 nm

mga problems ko

masikip sa likod lalo pag 5'9 above, madalas mag palit ng ball joint mga pang ilalim lalo pag malalaki ang gulong. medyo mahal ang parts niya change oil will cost you P1,600-1,800. madalas mag palit ng wire sa power windows kasi wire type siya.

pagka alam ko mabigat kasi ang kaya ng mazda e, pero maluwag sa likod.

over all i love my pickup no plans of selling it mag 12 yrs na sa akin hehe. pansinin mo mga media lalo channel 2 mga pickup nila puro nissan engines sila at pati eagle series nila buhay pa at matutulin din tibay talaga ng makina.

[oceanrider88]

I had a 95 ultra eagle before but sold it 2-3 years ago. The earlier ones had a better interior with a leathertte top overlay in the side panels vs. newer ones that had all cloth sidings. This was actually my choice before but i opted for the nissan looking at a few b2500s. Here's why:

1. super cold freezing AC
2. better fuel economy - 9-10km/l in the city on 30" tires
3. looks better when lifted - like a terrano or pathfinder
4. better interior for me
5. steel cylinder head so no warping when you overheat
6. super light power steering
7. super light clutch
8. more available parts: surplus / brand new / replacements
9. timing gear not timing chain nor timing belt so no unexpected snapping
10. felt easier and was very light to drive like a car
11. not a smokey diesel - not sure about mazda
12. better resale value - probably highest in its class
13. excellent suspension - no kalampag whatsoever
14. tight gear box like a car
15. cheap parts
16. for me, it looked better than the b2500
17. quiet BD25 diesel engine
18. hard to find b2500 with good interior - especially preserved door sidings - at least during that time i was looking around.

Here are a few things i dont like about the eagle:

1. The baby chassis (3 lateral bars holding the bed in place on top of the main chassis) has no drain holes for the water to leak out. So if you get a poorly maintained eagle, the baby chassis is well rusted out and may have eaten the bed. What i did was i hired a tinsmith and had him make 3 baby chassis with three large drain holes each and i had it waterproofed and had the bed repaired for P6k. No more rust.

2. No power mirror on my version. You have to spend P10k for surplus set. Not really a big deal if you're the only one using the vehicle but hassle if you are sharing the vehicle with someone else.

3. No remote gas tank opener