Automotive News | Car Talk | Car Finder | Buy and sell cars Philippines | Car Gallery | Advertise | Auto Shops | Buy and Sell Philippines |  Subscribe RSS Feeds

Go Back   Tsikot Philippines 2009 > Car Talk > Car Talk > Toyota Cars Talk

Tsikot Forums Google Search:

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-05-2009, 04:42 PM
JanineIssa JanineIssa is offline
Tsikot Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 14
JanineIssa is on a distinguished road
Default Can a 4AGE on a Starlet KP61 out run a B16 SIR?

Can a 4AGE on a Starlet KP61 out run a B16 SIR?

Hello just a quick question stock vs. stock (engine) sino panalo over all performance

Straight line ?
Slalom?
Up hill?
Drag race?

assuming same skill driver same tires etc.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-05-2009, 05:39 PM
niky's Avatar
niky niky is offline
SobrangBilisMagType!
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Underwater, whenever it r
Posts: 13,497
niky is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Can a 4AGE on a Starlet KP61 out run a B16 SIR?

Quote:
Originally Posted by JanineIssa View Post
Can a 4AGE on a Starlet KP61 out run a B16 SIR?

Hello just a quick question stock vs. stock (engine) sino panalo over all performance

Straight line ?
Slalom?
Up hill?
Drag race?

assuming same skill driver same tires etc.
Depends. Which 4AGE? With a regular 130hp high-horse, might be close (though I'd bet on the Starlet)... anything better (20v, GZE, GTE, etcetera) would annihilate a stock SiR in a straight drag... though top-speed runs might be a different story, depending on the gearing of the transmission you bolt to the Starlet. In a slalom or hill-climb, it'll depend on the handling modifications done to the Starlet. With TRD suspension bits and modern-sized (i.e.: not skinny) tires, the Starlet should trounce the bigger, heavier and longer SiR handily.

Of course, that's not stock. On stock tires and suspension, even with an engine change, a Starlet would be hard-put to trounce an SiR... just not enough grip or traction... though it might still beat it in a slalom.
__________________


Automotive Reviews and Features
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-05-2009, 07:07 PM
ghosthunter's Avatar
ghosthunter ghosthunter is offline
A Car Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Metro Manila, Philippines
Posts: 16,877
ghosthunter will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Can a 4AGE on a Starlet KP61 out run a B16 SIR?

In a straight line drag race, I think the Civic SiR would have the advantage.

In a slalom, the starlet/4age would win with better bottom end response and better ability to change direction.

Uphill? Straight line or curving roads? Stock to stock, Civic will edge out due to better traction.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-14-2009, 08:56 AM
4agze's Avatar
4agze 4agze is offline
Tsikot Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: socal
Posts: 214
4agze is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Can a 4AGE on a Starlet KP61 out run a B16 SIR?

KP61 with a good strong 4age will beat a SIR B16 In a slalom due to the weight advantage, 1/4 drag race maybe not and on up hill KP61 has a shorter gear ratio w/ a lighter weight than a SIR so you can us that to your advantage. i have a 4agze on my AE86, and use to have a eg hatch with a B16 if you ask me 4age maybe a an old motor but with its high revving personality its what got me hooked.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-25-2009, 11:11 PM
ryankarl's Avatar
ryankarl ryankarl is offline
Tsikot Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: iloilo
Posts: 37
ryankarl is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Can a 4AGE on a Starlet KP61 out run a B16 SIR?

subscribing..
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


» Forums via Email

Enter your email address:

» Sponsors

yehey.com
» Buy and Sell Tsikot Philippines
» Tsikot@Facebook
» Piyeza Philippines Auto Parts and Accessories
» Announcements
Tsikot Hotline: 0905-333-8-777
call: 9:00am - 12:00mn
text: 24/7/365

For ad inquiries, downtime alerts and other concerns
» Advertisements
» Tsikot.com Portal
» CarShows Philippines
» Auto Threads

All times are GMT +8. The time now is 12:21 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.