Imported ang Peugeot from France. Mahal ang tax and it's being marketed as a premium brand here, hence premium prices.
SMART cars used to be made by Swatch and Mercedes. Don't know if its still in production or who is making them. Mahal sila, around Php800k for something which seats only two, has a tiny motor, and has virtually no parts available locally.
Sealed beams are old school lamps common to cars of the 70's. They were required in the U.S. for quite some time. See how Mercedes has to 'downgrade' their Halogen equipped vehicles to accomodate sealed beams. Halogen (flush mount):
With sealed beams:
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ang haba na ng thread na ito, halos lahat na yata ng mini's nasabi or natanong na.. You would do yourself a favor by going to the recommended car's or mini-car's showrooms and test driving one yourself. Only you can decide what you want and besides its your money and you'll be the one driving it.What the posters here can offer is only their opinion (which may differ from yours)
bratski: i actually value each and everyone's opinion.. since people in this threasd have been extremely helpful.. and they sound like they know what theyre talkin' about. GENIUS. GENIUS.
otep: pra saan po yung sealed beams? prang pumanget pag nilagyan LOLS
ang cute pla nung smart cars.. cute rin ng size. kaso yan ang nakakatakot.. prang pwedeng buhatin ng 4 na tao.. haha
Sealed beams lang ang available na headlamps nung araw. Hanggang ngayon yan ang headlamp ng jeepney at tricycle.
Nung naimbento na ang halogen, walang rules ang U.S. regarding them kaya [out of katamaran siguro] they just required everyone to install sealed beams. Meron nang existing regulations ngayon, hindi na required ang sealed beams.
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otep: bakit wala ng daewoo ngayon? and bakit binili ng hyundai ang kia? bat di na lang nila pagsamahin? or hyundai na lang kunwari.. since sila na may ari ng kia, bat prang magcocompete pa rin sila?
ot: bat ang dami mo alam tungkol sa cars? mech eng major ka ba?
daewoo went bankrupt because of poor build quality and generally shitty cars. since GM was their partner, when they went belly-up GM bought their car plant and continues to turn out Chevy Aveos, Sparks, and Optras for the third world market. I hear the Optra is a hot seller in Eastern Europe. Eh Comrade?
as per Kia, it was a victim of the 1997 asian currency crisis. Hyundai actually was forced by the Korean government to buy / bail out Kia kasi maraming mawawalan ng trabaho. So Kia and Hyundai are now the same company with the same products (e.g. Kia Picanto and Hyundai Getz are the same underneath, same as Kia Sportage and Hyundai Tucson).
hindi naman ito nakakasama, it's called "platform sharing" and lots of companies do it. e.g. the Ford Focus, Mazda3, and Volvo S40 are all based on the C1 platform. the Ford Fusion, Mazda6, and Mazda CX7 are also based on the same platform.
ah ganun po ba? re: daewoo.. so in short, prang third world lang ang market ng mga chevy optra, spark at aveo? hmm.. gs2 ko pa nman ng chevy.. may konting "exclusivity" from the jazzes, vioses and cities of the world. plus, a really great interior ng optra.. gandang ganda ako. lols.
wow ang bait pla ng korea. LOLS. ang mahal nman ng cx7 e.. ganda pa nman sana!
The Aveo is also sold in Europe. A place where you can't buy a Vios or a City (though the Jazz aka Fit is available). Daewoos are also available in Australia and in Europe.
Daewoo in the Philippines was handled by a small company in the south called 'Transfarm'. They were then selling Opel-derived Daewoos which were not really a solid value and soon closed shop. They sold the Racer/Espero/Cielo/Price models, btw.
Daewoo will soon start producing the Chevrolet Captiva for the European and Asian markets. It is a derivative of the GM Theta platform which forms the foundation of the Chevrolet Equinox (a product designed for the US market).
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Kahit naman Ferrari may tumitingin as 'basura'. Don't be too influenced by the perception of others. Ikaw naman ang gagamit ng sasakyan. Ako from Mercedes to Kia then to Mitsubishi ang daily driver ko. Minsan kasi wala sa brand iyan, nasa nagdadala.
Basta maayos yung sasakyan mismo, and may adequate after sales support, ok na yun.
Re: Europe, most people see cars their as 'disposable' because after a certain age, nagiging annual na ang inspection ng sasakyan (not just emissions - buong sasakyan). Failure means hindi mo siya pwede iregister until you are compliant and you can fail by simply having a small crack on the windshield or a rust spot on a fender. That's why most people just junk the cars ang buy new ones.
If local vehicles were subjected to the same inspection European vehicles have to go through baka wala nang matirang kotse sa daan. Same case with Japan, kaya kahit in decent condition pa naman ang sasakyan, ineexport na lang nila as surplus.
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i love the "Minsan kasi wala sa brand iyan, nasa nagdadala" comment. totoo nga. you can drive a picanto and still look like a million bucks. ang cute cute nga ng picanto e. pavorit ko yung rear nya, the oversized tail lights tas color apple greenor yung prang yellow na d maintindihan kung yellow ba.. yey! hahaha :-)
"The Spark, based on the Daewoo Matiz, is another Guigiaro-designed minicar meant for city driving. GM claims that its 1.0-liter SOHC engine capable of 66 ps/5,400 rpm averages 18-20 km per liter and that it can rev up to 140 kph. However, I failed to verify these claims as the Spark's tiny size (1.5 meters tall, 3.5 meters long and 1.5 meters wide) made me nervous about trying it out on the Skyway.
The 1.2-liter Chevrolet Aveo hatchback. Photos by Aida Sevilla Mendoza
Surprisingly enough, however, the Spark has an excellent suspension (McPherson struts fore, multilink aft) system. This was proven when it was whipped around corners at adequately high speed inside a traffic-free subdivision in Alabang. Unlike the 1.2 Aveo, the Spark has front power windows, side protector molding and color-keyed side mirrors and door handles. A tuner/cassette player with only one hollow-sounding speaker is located at the center of the dash." -Aida Mendoza, inq7.net
GRABE, de ikot lang pla ang windows ng aveo? naturn off ako. hahaha. sabi nung author natatakot daw xia gamitin yung 1.0 spark?
otep nakakatakot ba tlga gamitin yung ganung kaliit na car? d b sya pwedeng pang edsa/coastal road/macapagal ave?
Any small car naman parang 'nakakatakot' i-drive lalo na't puro mga high at sabog na bus/truck drivers ang kasabay mo.
Pero ok lang naman, basta defensive driving lang. Yung Picanto ginagamit ko naman sa C3 (truck route) and ok naman siya. Hindi lang ako nakasama nung nag-Tagaytay sila with it.
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The Aveo isn't looked upon very kindly in the US or European markets. Only time will tell if it can keep up with the Japanese. The Spark is actually a decent car for a Daewoo, because it's cheap and simple. It's got a good following in Europe, I think.
The Optra? It's about two generations behind in terms of engine and chassis technology, although I'm told that the sound insulation and ride are pretty good. Value for money, yes, but the horror stories about first-generation Optra fuel consumption has sent their resale value to the basement.
Daewoo was a horrible company, and GM has had some teething problems with the cars, but reliability and quality are starting to improve. I still wouldn't recommend the Chevys, as you're paying too much money for something that's only as good as or almost as good as Hyundai and Kia... but the extended warranties and service make up for some of their other sins.
RE: Hyundai-Kia interiors. Oh, they look good, but once you touch the plastic, you'll realize that the Korean twins are still way behind the Japanese when it comes to material tactility. It's sort of like wearing a fake "Polo" polo. It may look the same, but it definitely feels cheaper against your skin.
Since most people don't take the time rub their hands against the dashboard, rap on it with a knuckle, or run their nails along the grain, I don't think it's a big problem
Car knowledge? Us guys? We're car addicts. There are basketball addicts who could tell you Jordan's jock size and his steal-per-game percentage. Us? Puro kotse lang...
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